Do you believe, alter hearing about the history of my country and all that bad that happened, that you ask “Why do you work with the poor now?”
JANIS
Why does it surprise you for me to ask that question? Lou, it is so easy to look the other way. It is easy to concern yourself with your own life. I know Peruvians who have never entered a poor zone in Lima. You have made another choice. And, now I have made another choice. I want to understand our motivations.
LOU
All of the times you have visited Peru, I have asked myself what you think of the poverty in my country. Where do you think it comes from?
JANIS
Well, I think we have discussed how poverty entered into the culture of Peru through the arrival of the Spanish and the resulting demise of the Incan Empire. The Spanish domination changed the culture of the people at the time in Peru. The Spanish as well as other countries also came to North America; the native Indian tribes suffered the same results through the domination of other groups. 
However, the English and other countries came to North America for other reasons. It seems to me that the Spanish came to conquer Latin America and were obviously successful in doing so. Conquerors dominate and Peruvians, as a whole, were dominated by the systems and government the Spanish put in place. The majority of the people had limited opportunity unless they married or where born into Spanish society. The rich controlled the lives of the poor. 
Systems and governments become institutions. Institutions are always difficult to change because, I think, they resist change. Over time, poverty becomes a way of life for many with those in power maintaining their control sometimes without realizing what they are doing.
Poverty becomes something that affects other people but it doesn’t seem to affect us personally. At least, that is how I think a lot of Americans are. We know there is poverty here in our country. But it seems distant. Poverty in Peru or India or Africa is too easy to overlook. What we see are the results of poverty: homelessness, crime, drug use, unemployment, teenage pregnancy, etc. I think we start to mentally develop reasons for the existence of poverty: laziness, failure to take advantage of educational opportunities, etc. We look at the poor and think to ourselves: “Why don’t they try to improve their lives? They have the same free public education, etc as I did.” 
LOU
Well, poverty in Peru comes from various factors and the results are those we see in the streets or on TV where many people take drugs, get drunk or stop fighting for a better life.
Many times poverty continues because there is a lack of nourishment, a lack of books in schools, a lack of love from parents, all of this makes the kids we find many times fall behind with a miserable future ahead.
I also had a public education only I studied in a private university through the opportunity given to me by my parents and one of my sisters. Without the help of them, I believe my life would be totally different. 
JANIS
Yes, I understand. I often wonder how it is that I have had the opportunities and others did not. Certainly, I had no personal choice in my nationality, my parents, the economic status of my family, etc. The truth is I did nothing to be put in a situation to have the advantages in the first place. I could have been born in another country or economic situation. Certainly some of us have had more advantages than others. But, I realize in a new way that “there but by the grace of God go I”. 
When I look at the faces of the children and visit in the homes, I realize that these children did not choose to attend schools without books; they want to eat every day and have a warm place to sleep at night. Just like me. Their parents want them to have a better future. And, I see now that families are sometimes doing the best they can. There’s no time for homework help when you spend 10-12 hours a day hoping to earn a few dollars to have a meal on the table at night. And, for those who turn to drugs and alcohol, maybe they have just given up on life.
LOU
I believe it was a great change for you, to come to Arequipa and Lima and to know the actual reality of the country. You told me that your life changed and that you have more interest in the things of God. Now it has already been 2 years that we have known each other and you have made 8 visits to Arequipa, Lima and Cusco.
JANIS
I have to confess I knew little about Peru and its history on my first trip in July, 2005. I certainly had no knowledge of the Incan civilization and how they cared for one another in community. In a few short days, I was overwhelmed with the kindness of Peruvians in the midst of their poverty. My dear friend, Oleta, had this insight following my trip: I found something there I have looked for my entire life. I had to return. 
LOU
Well, I believe that it is God that places people who are disposed to working with poor children and adults. And how did you convince yourself to come these 8 times…don’t your friends ask you why you come to Peru so many times? 
JANIS
Convince myself? There was hardly any convincing to do! I have made one statement over and over since that first trip: my heart would stop beating if I didn’t return to Peru. I have been compelled to return. It has been life-defining.
But, yes, my friends have asked why I have come so many times. Their reactions have been varied. Some are surprised. Some probably thought I would “get over it.” But, now two years later, it is obvious something significant happened to me. Now they just ask when I am going to move there!
Now, I move between two very different worlds. I wish I could explain it well. l leave the US and slip into my own version of “Narnia”. 
Some days I board a plane leaving a comfortable life in the US behind, and 9-10 hours later I step into a totally different existence. I feel at home in Peru. Sometimes it seems more “real” to me than life in the United States.
LOU
Your friends are surprised that you have returned so many times. I think that they see the change in your life, of how you interest yourself in a country that is to the south of the United Status that almost no one has heard of. I can imagine myself the surprise that they feel to see your decisión to be here in my country. Peru is not a magical place like Narnia, but I believe that the reality of life exists here. 
JANIS
No, Peru isn’t a magical place. But, the movement between two worlds is very descriptive for me. There are many differences between the United States and Peru. But there are many similarities as well. I am always surprised that the people in both countries are more similar than different.
Two years later I cannot imagine a life without Peru. It has become a part of who I am. I want to help the poor in Peru for the rest of my life. But, I have also discovered how this happened. Poverty now has “a face”…many faces, in fact. Poverty is not a concept that exists in a part of the world far away. I cannot think about poverty as something that affects people I do not know. Poverty affects people I know personally…people I have come to care about in the past two years.
LOU
Well, I know that Peru isn’t a magical world. It is totally different and I believe that there are many differences between the United States and my country. But I believe that God is doing a personal work with many people in your country and in my country. God ultimately moves us because the Work we are doing is His not ours, if you are here is it because God put this in your heart and disposition to work through all the rest. 
Here in Lima we have done social work in a poor zone. But sincerely I believe that God permited us to know one another and to work together in His Work that He has put in hands.
How did you feel when you arrived in Peru? Why did you choose to travel to Peru the first time?
JANIS
I came to Peru to determine if a particular project from my church, Valley Ranch Baptist Church, could be implemented in Peru. We call it the Christmas Store. For several years, we have partnered with another church in Dallas in a poor area of the city. The second weekend of December we turn our church into one large “toy store” and bring poor parents to “shop” for gifts for the children in their families. There is no cost to them. As a result, 1100-1200 poor children have a Christmas. But the point is not to provide gifts. The point is to let these families know that someone cares about them and wants to help meet the needs their lives. Our church members had traveled to Peru on various mission trips through Buckner International and e3Partners. It seemed logical that we would implement a similar concept where we already had relationships and contacts. 
I definitely was unimpressed with Lima. It was late at night and we stayed near the airport. The weather was cold and damp.
I actually couldn’t wait to leave Lima. At the time, I thought a Christmas Store in Peru would be in Arequipa. 
There is one more interesting part to this particular story. Remember, it was an “accident” that you came to Arequipa in the first place? I almost missed my plane. My daughter, Shannon, was supposed to come with me but needed to cancel. If she was there, you and I would have never met one another because we would have been assigned to different groups. Things happen for a reason. 
LOU
Then if your daughter Shannon had come, you would have been in another group. How did you feel about leaving the United States and your children and to not see Shannon with you in Peru?
JANIS
Well, I was disappointed at first. I thought it would be such a great experience for her. My parents were very upset that I wanted to take my daughter to Peru. I thought that they were crazy to react like this. The trip was well-planned and safe. I realized that God provides direction through our families. I reluctantly decided to cancel her plans to come to Peru. Now, I realize that the trip would have been so different. I thought I would be assigned to a different small group; however, I was assigned to the group where you were a translator. 
I really believe I would have never met you if I have insisted on bringing my daughter with me. God had other plans for my life. I didn’t see those plans for awhile. I am glad I listened.
LOU
This part of your story, of your trip to Arequipa (to the south of Lima) coincides with mine. Because at that time, the wife of my pastor told me that she was looking for three persons that would be able to go to Arequipa. 
She was used by God and choose two friends and me. It surprised me to be in Arequipa because I had not left my city, it was a new experience for me. When I arrived the night when the translators would be assigned to the different groups of Americans, I was in line in front of my friend Paul waiting my turn, but I remember he changed places with me and put me behind him. I did not know why he did it. Paul was assigned first to a group and I was finally assigned to your group. If I had remained in front of Paul I would have been in another group and would not have known you. My story is the same as yours. 
JANIS
That week in Arequipa passed quickly. The second day I was there I told my small group leader, Mike, that I thought I would have a hard time leaving. By the end of the week I was convinced I had to return somehow. The trip leader, Todd, still teases me that he wasn’t sure I would get on the plane back to the United States. 
I cried all the way home to Texas. You gave me a CD of Jesús Adrian Romero’s music; I listened to it until the batteries on the CD player ran down. When I arrived home in Coppell, Texas, there was a great contrast between my American life and the life I had seen in Peru. Suddenly there seemed to be such excesses in my life. I gave away half of my clothes; I never missed anything. And, I continued to remember the faces of the kids we worked with. Do you remember the first time I called you in Peru? 
LOU
I remember that I gave you to the CD and my t-shirt from the Catholic University and that you called me afterward. This trip to Arequipa was the beginning of our work together with needy people. For 5 days we walked through streets that didn’t have asphalt and the wind made the sand blow in our faces. But this was not important to me because I could see much necessity in the lives of the people.
JANIS
As I left the poor zone in Arequipa for the last time, I was already imagining what it would be like to continue to work with these children in some way. I realized that unless someone tried to help them, they would live the same lives as their parents and the legacy of poverty would be passed to another generation. But, at the time I didn’t have a solution. 
LOU
When I returned to Lima, the faces of these poor children from the zone of Horacio Zeballos in Arequipa remained in my mind. They were like the children I worked with face to face in my home of Lima. I had never experimented with working with children from the provinces in spite of working with poor children in the zones of Nueva Caledonia and San Genaro in Chorrillos (Lima) since 1995. I believe that my mind has been thoughtful about poverty that has affected the children of Arequipa; Chorrillos is like the rest of my country. I felt poverty so close through them.
JANIS
Yes, that is a good way to express it. Poverty is closer for me, too. As I said earlier, poverty has a face now…the faces of all the children in Horacio Zeballos in Arequipa…and now the faces of children in San Genaro in Chorrillos. Not a day goes by for me that I don’t remember a child in either location. But, now I have visited on their homes with dirt floors, prayed with them, learned songs and heard their personal stories. 
LOU
I believe that I have been fortunate to be born in a family that believes in God and His promises. I am not talking about religión but rather the love God has for all of us. I believe that God puts inside people the concern for others so they give their time to help others. And I am one of these persons. 
When you voluntarily asked me to work with the poor children of San Genaro, I believe that it was God that put this idea in your heart. From the first time we saw each other in July, 2005 in Arequipa, we have been working together to be able to make life a little better for the poor children and I believe we are on a good path. 
JANIS
I also grew up in a home that believed in God. It has always been important to me to find a way to demonstrate the love of God visibly. Certainly matters of eternity are important, but the poor in Peru live day by day without enough to eat or clothes to wear. 
LOU
Yes, here there are many poor people that don't have anything to eat or clothes to wear...but I believe that God has given us the opportunity to demonstrate our faith and to show them love through our work. Not only did we go to Arequipa but also we have been able to help here also in Chorrillos using a time of year that is special in all the world: Christmas… But we will talk about this in our next conversation.
Los ingleses y otros países vinieron a América del Norte por otras razones. Sin embargo, me parece que los españoles vinieron a conquistar América Latina y tuvieron el éxito haciendo eso. Los conquistadores dominaron y los peruanos, en conjunto, fueron dominados por los sistemas políticos y de gobierno que el español puso en el lugar. La mayoría de las personas estaban limitadas de oportunidades a menos que ellos se casado o hayan nacido en la sociedad española. El rico controlaba las vidas de los pobres.
LOU

















